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147944847

What's the "boundary=hazard" area? Perhaps you could add a description saying why it's dangerous.

145975820

Hi! Please make sure to not adjust admin boundaries in this type of edit. It is not unusual for them to meander back and forth across roads and streams, and almost all of the UK admin boundaries in OSM are derived from an authoritative source. I have fixed Ampney St Peter already by resetting it to the official boundaries, but I will be checking other affected areas.

144480006

Een product is misschien ooit in een fabriek geproduceerd, maar dat hoeft niet. Een product kan ook iets zijn dat door een winkel wordt verkocht - hun assortiment bestaat uit producten. Ik denkt dat je voor deze wijziging ernaast zit.

143307525

Hi Leo, na voltooing van rotonde in de Floraweg heeft lijn 73 zijn eigenlijke route hervat. Zet je de vier route-relaties weer terug? Bedankt!

144054261

Risinghurst and Sandhills is an administrative entity (civil parish) and Risinghurst should be put back to admin_centre as that is where the council meetings take place.

144013980

Will you revert this changeset as well?

144015479

Was there any discussion about this? I can imagine the Welsh in particular not being happy. It's officially a bilingual country, just like Switzerland or Belgium (they have 4 and 3 official languages respectively).

143569759

If you can convince the community (not just me) that your coastline follows MHWS more accurately than the OS, then OK. I doubt you can because you admit to basing your work on a single snapshot photo - with all its inaccuracies and other unknowns. Otherwise please consider reverting your edits to the published OS vector data, or take this discussion to the mailing list.
Note it's not about being outdated, it's about the mathematical principle that you cannot derive a long-term (1 year+) average from any single photo, or survey for that matter. Please see https://www.pla.co.uk/Safety/Tides-Definitions-and-Notes for information about the algorithms - can you follow that better than the OS?

143569759

It's really not a good idea to infer coastlines from aerial imagery. The coastline is defined as mean high water springs, which is taken as a long-term average and no snapshot can be good enough, even if you could detect where the water stops and the state of the tide at the instant the photo was taken. There was a recent discussion on this subject on the Talk-GB mailing list: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2023-October/030770.html

When you say "OS Maps" do you mean the published vector data in (e.g.) Boundary-Line, of something else? As admin boundaries are aligned to Mean Low Water Springs (in Scotland) the same comment about aerial photos applies here as well.

143569759

Hi! Can you tell us what your source is for the admin boundary (LWM) and coastline (HWM) data? It doesn't seem to correspond to OS data and the combination has anomalies (coastline beyond admin boundary for example)

141703421

How do I view a map with the label language governed by my browser preferences? AFAIK on osm.org all the tiles are rendered server-side and the language choice is fixed.

142588476

Sorry, I mean the admin boundaries are aligned to MLW of course!

142588476

I would suggest to just bear in mind that UK admin boundaries are in general aligned to MHW whereas the coastline is MHW. If you find yourself wanting to set the coastline seaward of an admin boundary, one of them is wrong. But it often happens that MHW and MLW lines legitimately coincide (when seen from above) in areas of steep cliffs or man-made things like harbours and breakwaters. Watch out with piers if they are built out over the sea, as the end of the pier can be not only beyond the coastline but also beyond MLW, although they will most likely be included in the admin area.

142623791

Regarding "undoing someone's work..." that is exactly what you are doing...

142623791

Just realigning the data to its tagged source. Feel free to tag your changes as "personal guess based on a single aerial photo" and allow others (including me) to decide which is the more reliable source. Of course you are free to survey the area yourself over a period of months and account for tidal variations due to atmospheric pressure, seiche waves and other phenomena...

142588476

Imagery will not help! You cannot derive MHW(S)/MLW(S) from any picture, you need a professional survey over a long period of time.
Another advantage to using the OS data is consistency between low and high water lines. You will never find high water lines seaward of low water in the OS data. It can be co-linear (vertical walls and cliffs for example). OSM is full of examples of these logical errors caused by coastline and admin boundaries coming from different sources, and the OS is the best (public) source you will ever get.

142588476

Aerial imagery is no good for that as you have no idea of the state of the tide when the photo was taken, and you can't really tell if rocks are covered with water or not. In the UK the best data for HWM and LWM for us is from the Ordnance Survey in the Boundary-Line data set which contains HWM data and government boundaries. The coastal data is reviewed accurately every few years. This is what I use when updating coastlines and coastal boundaries.

142588476

Hi... Where did you get your coastline data from?

142404479

Shame you didn't fix the actual problem (tag centre should be admin_centre) instead of adressing the symptom

142353142

Please note that admin boundaries are not based on logic or common sense, but on legal documents. The Glynneath community boundary is what it is.